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Discussion for Today
[edit]- This page is transcluded from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024_December_28
December 28
[edit]NEW NOMINATIONS
[edit]Category:Ian (rapper) mixtape albums
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Redundant layer. Category:Ian (rapper) albums is otherwise empty. Upmerge sole entry. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 16:31, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
Members of the Australian House of Representatives by term
[edit]- Propose deleting Category:Members of the Australian House of Representatives by term
- Nominator's rationale: Not a defining category and these categories result in career politicians having far too many cats that indicate essentially the same thing. Traumnovelle (talk) 03:08, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Traumnovelle: Are you proposing the deletion of all its subcategories as well? If so, they should be tagged. jlwoodwa (talk) 04:11, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Correct. It seemed easier to list the parent than listing 50 categories. Traumnovelle (talk) 04:30, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- They might not all need to be listed here, but they should all have the {{subst:cfd}} template placed on them. I used User:Qwerfjkl/scripts/massXFD to quickly tag all the subcategories. jlwoodwa (talk) 06:22, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Correct. It seemed easier to list the parent than listing 50 categories. Traumnovelle (talk) 04:30, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Traumnovelle: Are you proposing the deletion of all its subcategories as well? If so, they should be tagged. jlwoodwa (talk) 04:11, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Commonly used category structure (see Category:Legislators by term). Nothing unique about Australian politicians that make them an exception. Diffuses otherwise overpopulated categories within Category:Politicians by century and nationality. If preferred, I wouldn't be against the creation of categories such as Category:20th-century members of the Australian House of Representatives and upmerging into this. That is how American legislators are sorted. Jevansen (talk) 04:59, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Jevansen: Just because other stuff exists doesn't mean this gets to. Heck, the issues with these categories mean that the Category:Legislators by term subcats may have to be brought here. ミラP@Miraclepine 23:27, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Not sure that applies to categories. Jevansen (talk) 01:59, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Jevansen: Even if I didn't miss it (which I of course did), there are still times where the principles are functionally the same, and in this case this is so. ミラP@Miraclepine 03:31, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Not sure that applies to categories. Jevansen (talk) 01:59, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Merge all to Category:Members of the Australian House of Representatives, this is a ridiculous sort of overcategorization. That applies to every other country as well. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:02, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Merge all to century-wide subcategories of Category:Members of the Australian House of Representatives and, like I said before, see to it we do the same to all the subcats in Category:Legislators by term. Other stuff exists, after all. ミラP@Miraclepine 23:27, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - National legislators is one of only a few topics for which there is inherent notability. As a result they are popular amongst editors looking to create new articles and virtually every country, even non-English speaking countries, has several hundred, if not thousands, of national legislator articles. Removing sub-categorisation by term will result in extremely large categories which are difficult to navigate. WP:DIFFUSE allows large categories to be broken down into smaller, more specific subcategories. For legislators the most obvious way to create smaller, more manageable categories is to diffuse by term. Diffusing by century won't help as this only creates two/three sub-categories which would all undoubtedly be overpopulated - I wouldn't be surprised if Category:21st-century members of the Australian House of Representatives contains more than a thousand articles already and we are only a quarter of the way through this century.--Obi2canibe (talk) 14:14, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- There could be better ways to break it down such as by state, but having up to 10 categories on a page that encapsulate essentially the same thing is overcategorisation and what led me here. Traumnovelle (talk) 19:38, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- That's an extreme example. It's like using the categorisation of Elizabeth II as an reason to delete Category:Heads of state by country and its sub-categories; or the categorisation of Barack Obama as an reason to delete Category:American people by descent and its sub-categories. The large majority of legislators aren't included in more than a handful of legislators by term categories. We shouldn't be destroying a sensible and useful categorisation structure based on extreme examples.--Obi2canibe (talk) 16:35, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- The reason I nominated this because 8 categories were added to a politician I had watchlisted, which is just over categorisation. Traumnovelle (talk) 07:35, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- That's an extreme example. It's like using the categorisation of Elizabeth II as an reason to delete Category:Heads of state by country and its sub-categories; or the categorisation of Barack Obama as an reason to delete Category:American people by descent and its sub-categories. The large majority of legislators aren't included in more than a handful of legislators by term categories. We shouldn't be destroying a sensible and useful categorisation structure based on extreme examples.--Obi2canibe (talk) 16:35, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NotAGenious (talk) 16:12, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
Category:Muntjac
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Muntjac to Category:Muntjacs
- Nominator's rationale: Most other taxon categories use either the scientific name (Muntiacus for this genus) or a plural common name. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 15:18, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
Category:Flash television shows
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Flash television shows to Category:Flash animated television series
- Nominator's rationale: Better title for the category, to match with its subcategories. 2803:C600:8101:80DD:BC28:5B0:38B5:F109 (talk) 14:26, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
Category:Video game video content
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: The are multiple concerns I have with this category: one the content being a bit of a mix bag of things, however I'm more concerned with the bizarre name for this category; I believe this current name is very unhelpful for most readers. Shouldn't the name of this category be "video game footage" or "recordings of video games" instead? The current name is honestly very off-putting and could be confused with any video on the internet related to video games; not just footage of gameplay which I clearly understand that that's what it's supposed to be for. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 06:31, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, it is a mix bag of things indeed. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:58, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
Category:Works featuring video games
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: I was going to nominate this category like a month ago but forgot all about it, but I'm doing it now. Anyway, this category has bizarre trait; and potentially non-defining. No other category has a trait similar to this one (___ featuring a type of work; whatever you actually mean by that). I'll leave up to you to share your opinions on whether or not this category should be deleted. If it deleted, where else where would we categorize the article DVP (song)? QuantumFoam66 (talk) 06:17, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, we already have Category:Works about video games with a clearer scope and the articles in Category:Works featuring video games do not seem to belong there. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:57, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
Category:Music commissioned by the Frankfurt Radio Symphony Orchestra
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: The official English name is Frankfurt Radio Symphony. Grimes2 (talk) 01:47, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Rename for consistency with Frankfurt Radio Symphony. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:00, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Rename as proposed. The logo at Frankfurt Radio Symphony shows this is the English name. --Cyfal (talk) 14:49, 28 December 2024 (UTC)